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Delicious Orange

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Re: Tips and Tricks Thread!
« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2010, 08:48:52 AM »
in middle huh ?, could you please tell me ,So what decoration did you use to keep it in middle

Because your inventory is constantly changing, you need to constantly be changing your decorations if you want to keep your atmosphere in the middle. I personally find that simply having a few different Wall and Floor patterns to switch between tends to influence the atmosphere enough that I can stock virtually anything and be able to maintain a neutral atmosphere. I'm sure that certain events and characters are likely to pop-up if you favor one style over the other, but since I'm trying to make it through on my first play-through I'm not trying to do anything fancy.

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« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2010, 09:28:10 AM »
Plank Walls
Quality Plank Floors
Green Carpet
Barrel Counters

This is my favored setup for a Light/Plain mood.

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« Reply #47 on: September 12, 2010, 04:04:29 AM »
im really confused about the pin thingy, i don't get bonuses when i sell items like what you guys said, the highest that i got is 2exp and sometimes 15exp with the little girl..

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« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2010, 04:13:59 AM »
15xp is for a "near pin".

Basically, whenever a customer buys/sells something, they have a "perfect price" in mind they hope you'll give them. If you get that price exactly (or almost?), you'll get a "full pin", which gives you 30xp (instead of the basic 10). If you're very close to the price, you'll get a "near pin".

Not only do these give you more merchant xp, but they also raise your reputation with that customer faster than a normal sale.

Check out Doniazade's FAQ for more info on this (and other useful stuff!).

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And now for something unrelated:

Louie put in an Advance Order for two "metal items". I was ecstatic; great opportunity to equip him with two items of my choice!

Or so I thought...

I tried a few combinations (a sword + various pieces of armor), and he only ended up equipping one of the items, usually the sword. I didn't think of testing to see what makes them choose which item at the time.

A bit later, Charme put in an order for two pieces of armor, so I tested this further.

I suspected that she'd equipped the first item of the two I selected, but this wasn't the case.

I'm not entirely sure by what means they decide which of the items to actually equip, but my guess is that it follows the "Optimum Equipment" parameters.

Point being, though, don't try to multiple-equip one of your adventurers when fulfilling an advance order, as it won't work. Pick one item you want them to have, and best to give them something they -can't- equip for the other(s), to make sure the item you want is the one that gets equipped. No doubt giving them something equal to or weaker than what they already have or to what you're giving them to equip is a safe bet as a secondary (or tertiary, etc.) item, but why take chances?

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« Reply #49 on: September 12, 2010, 04:36:56 AM »
i want to ask about dungeon.when i play newgame+ , i had been clead dungeon 2 in the first play so do i need to clear it again to unlock dungeon 3, now the day is 10 and yet i still don't see dungeon 3 apear

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« Reply #50 on: September 12, 2010, 04:56:35 AM »
15xp is for a "near pin".

Basically, whenever a customer buys/sells something, they have a "perfect price" in mind they hope you'll give them. If you get that price exactly (or almost?), you'll get a "full pin", which gives you 30xp (instead of the basic 10). If you're very close to the price, you'll get a "near pin".

Not only do these give you more merchant xp, but they also raise your reputation with that customer faster than a normal sale.

Check out Doniazade's FAQ for more info on this (and other useful stuff!).

then im going to go guessing, i read the faq but it seems like there are different offers depending on the items on display. is there a way to atleast know what the costumers preferred price is?

And the fairy of the annoying little girl is really getting on my nerves i can't sell anything to her unless i give her the base price of the item..

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« Reply #51 on: September 12, 2010, 05:05:23 AM »
i want to ask about dungeon.when i play newgame+ , i had been clead dungeon 2 in the first play so do i need to clear it again to unlock dungeon 3, now the day is 10 and yet i still don't see dungeon 3 apear
Yes, but you just have to defeat the last part of the dungeon (11~15).
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Re: Tips and Tricks Thread!
« Reply #52 on: September 12, 2010, 05:10:41 AM »
then im going to go guessing, i read the faq but it seems like there are different offers depending on the items on display. is there a way to atleast know what the costumers preferred price is?

And the fairy of the annoying little girl is really getting on my nerves i can't sell anything to her unless i give her the base price of the item..

The preferred price fluctuates, but like that FAQ indicates you can almost always get a near pin (and occasionally a full pin) if you sell at 104%. Getting better reputation with customers dramatically increases the amount of money they can afford to spend, which is vital as the game progresses. I'd only bother setting higher prices if you really need quick money (looming deadline, for instance) or if you're selling something moderately expensive to the little blonde girl (who will pay ridiculously jacked up prices, more than basically anyone else). So far I've managed to have more than twice the required payment at the end of each week with a decent stock, and I'm on the last week.

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« Reply #53 on: September 12, 2010, 05:22:48 AM »
Just to add to what Dagoth said, my first time playing, I only made the payment on the first week by selling most of my stock directly to the guild at a huge loss. Needless to say, I finished my second week in a cardboard box...

Then I read the FAQ, and started always selling at 104% and buying at 70%. I've got ~250k pix and plenty of stock at the end of week 3. Reputation makes a -huge- difference.

Price fluctuations due to "special events" (higher/lower prices in the news) complicate things. I've found that for "high priced" items, 200% works. But you can go lower, if you want to play it safe (I was selling for 179% for a long time, not wanting to take chances). You won't get pins for these, but it'll sell, and you won't break your chain. I'm less certain about "low-priced" items. Some customers have been happy with 100%, but other times, I've had to go as low as 55% to make the sale.

As for the little girl, yeah, she's a pain. Just make sure you have cheap stuff for her to buy. She starts with a max budget of only 600 pix. But once you level up her rep once, you're in the clear. It takes a while, but keep at it.

Best, when starting, to have many (and varied) cheap items than just a few big ones. Early on, your number one priority should be to raise your customers' reputation, so they have more spending money.

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Re: Tips and Tricks Thread!
« Reply #54 on: September 12, 2010, 05:43:02 AM »
then im going to go guessing, i read the faq but it seems like there are different offers depending on the items on display. is there a way to atleast know what the costumers preferred price is?

And the fairy of the annoying little girl is really getting on my nerves i can't sell anything to her unless i give her the base price of the item..

The gist of it is, there are *Pin bonuses, and there are combo bonuses.

*Pin bonuses are given when you manage to hit close to what the customer was expecting to pay for an item. Doniazade has done some testing and found that for all customers, 104% will reliably give Near/JustPin bonuses. When you score no *Pin bonus you will get 10 exp, which is the lowest amount possible. If you get a NearPin, you will get 15 instead of 10, and if you get a JustPin you will get 30 instead of the base 10.

The main reason *Pin bonuses are good are that they give reputation, and each time a customer reputation "levels up", their budget doubles! If you never level up your relations with your customers, they will never afford the more expensive things!

In short, it is a good idea to price your items at 104% (70% when buying) unless you HAVE to make short-term money. High-priced items are worth roughly double (208% when selling, 110-140% when buying) and low-price items are worth roughly half (52% when selling, 35% when buying). Since most items are gotten for free (dungeons), or at discount from the market/guild, you're still making a hefty profit at 104%!


Combo bonuses build up if your customer accepts your first offer. For as long as a customer doesn't have to refuse an offer, the combo bonus will grow by double each time, up to 128:
2->4->8->16->32->64->128

The combo bonus ends when you are refused (CURSE YOU, EURIA!) or your shop closes for that time slice.
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« Reply #55 on: September 12, 2010, 06:20:27 AM »
oh ok, thnx for your advices guys. and i think im on the last week already i will try and finish the 500k debt and try and restart the game again.

one more question where can i unlock the other Adventurers? i can only use Louie when going on adventures. i think i have met 4 of them already, the mage, the girl with wooden claw hands, the overpriced merchant and the thief. i just can't tag them along when i go to the dungeon.

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« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2010, 06:30:52 AM »
oh ok, thnx for your advices guys. and i think im on the last week already i will try and finish the 500k debt and try and restart the game again.

one more question where can i unlock the other Adventurers? i can only use Louie when going on adventures. i think i have met 4 of them already, the mage, the girl with wooden claw hands, the overpriced merchant and the thief. i just can't tag them along when i go to the dungeon.

Adventurers are also reputation based, get enough reputation with them by selling things to them (Again, Pin bonuses help a ton here!) when they visit your shop and they will give you their adventurer cards :)

**Some adventurers have other pre-requisites before they'll even show up at your store, experiment! (Or read around on the forums if you want the spoiler how-tos!)

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Re: Tips and Tricks Thread!
« Reply #57 on: September 12, 2010, 07:17:37 AM »
Anybody know how to unlock Arma? She's been buying stuff at my store for weeks, I've leveled her up at least 4 times and she is constantly in my store, but no card. Is she just not a recruit-able adventurer?

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« Reply #58 on: September 12, 2010, 09:11:25 AM »
You need all the other seven Adventurers to get her, and you need to clear Lapis Lazuli (which has 100 Levels and a difficulty level beyond good and evil). Have fun. ;)

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« Reply #59 on: September 12, 2010, 09:26:11 AM »
What does the + besides items and ingredients mean...?

I assume higher + ingredients make better fusion items but you dont get to choose ingredients so does it just take the highest level ingredient?

Some of the items ive made are +4 and +8 and i assume the difference is from the ingredients used..

Edit : just found flying pumpkins, how do i get them to come down? It just results in me running around in circles while they float around and refuse to come down..
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